#1 03-09-2007 22:23:08

Tom Riley
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I was a user of  the ti-ex tinnitronics device. I got on the program to rent the unit. Price $600 and receive $200 upon return. I used the unit for the recommended 4 months. I received support from a ti-ex representative. It was explained to me that the volume would get worse before it got better. It truly did get worse BUT NEVER GOT BETTER. I was given authorization to return the unit for my refund. So I sent the unit back and got a return mail receipt. However I never received my $200. Any email to the company does not receive a reply. I am left in worse condition than when I started, and am out $600. Draw your own conclusions.

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#2 04-09-2007 17:51:28

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Hi Tom,

First of all, welcome in the forum.

The efficiency (or lack thereof) of the ti-ex device besides, I had a couple of contacts before who mentioned that they did not respond to emails and/or were extremely slow with delivery. In order to see whether they are still in business at all, I phoned them up  (+43 1 367 96 13) and mentioned the name of one of the person who hadn't got his device after more than a month. They apologized, blaming it on a supply problem, and said that this particular delivery had been sent out now.

So in order to contact them about this matter, I would recommend to phone the above number. If this still doesn't result in anything, please let me know and I'll phone them up myself. It will surely get them going when they see that bad publicity about them has already gone international.

Thomas

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#3 27-09-2007 05:49:29

Brian
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Hi Thomas;
      I have the ti-ex device at present and I use it at the recommended morning and evening for 30 minutes. My tinnnitus as been all over the place from a loud screaming to a low hissing. I don't know if this is because of ti-ex but I am getting some reactions. With ti-ex I was recommended that in 4 months my tinnitus should be gone. My 4 months is coming up and I am not there yet. Has anyone got a positive result from ti-ex or total success. Or has anyone got any forum of success from all of the various techniques, such as hypnosys, pills, accupuncture, natural path or homeopath. Does anyone have any success story on tinnitus.
Tku
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#4 27-09-2007 18:12:54

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Hi Brian,

Welcome to the forum.

I had only a few direct reports regarding the ti-ex device so far: the ones in this thread (which appear to be negative) and 2 a couple of years ago (which were largely positive; see this forum archive page (the comment by Dave and following entries)).
So, the experiences seem to be somewhat mixed at best. The company actually claims only a success rate of around 50% anyway (or rather they did claim, see the post below), so in this respect they were at least more honest than the distributors of some other alleged remedies.

Thomas

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#5 27-09-2007 18:27:29

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Tom Riley wrote:

I was given authorization to return the unit for my refund. So I sent the unit back and got a return mail receipt. However I never received my $200. Any email to the company does not receive a reply. I am left in worse condition than when I started, and am out $600. Draw your own conclusions.

Hi Tom,

I found actually out in the meanwhile that Tinnitronics (the distributors of the ti-ex device) have become insolvent and are apparently being liquidated. I quote from http://www.tinnitus.at/news/index.html :

News- TIEX-Gerät-FA. Konkurs
Zur Information unserer Mitglieder:
Laut Beschluss des Handelsgerichtes 1030 Wien, Marxergasse 1a, vom 17. Juli 2007 (FN 172827h) wurde über die Fa. Tinnitronics Handels-und VertriebsgmbH
(TIEX-Gerät), 1080 Wien, Fuhrmanngasse 8/20, das Konkursverfahren eröffnet.

This could be the reason why they haven't sent you the $200 yet, and it looks therefore like you won't see much of it again.

This is also confirmed by the fact that their website http://www.ti-ex.com/ has apparently been taken off the internet.


Update:  It appears that the owner of the old Tinnitronics company (Gerald Neuwirth) is now in business again and offering the TiEx device for sale or rent, but apparently on a privat basis now  (see http://www.tinnitus-therapie.at/en/ ).
Tom told me by the way that he is nevertheless not receiving the outstanding amount of $200 as this contract was with the old company.


Thomas

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#6 28-09-2007 04:21:57

Brian
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Hi Thomas;
  Glad to be here and be able to communicate with other suffers. Has or have you heard of anyone getting results from T-gone or Tinnarex. Both of these have great claims but DO THEY WORK. Has anyone found any product that does work or work for them.
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#7 29-09-2007 17:55:24

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Brian,

I did not personally have contact yet with anybody who claimed that T-Gone would have helped. The general consensus one can find in various forums is that it is a waste of money. As you may know, homeopathic medicines are quite controversial regarding their effectiveness anyway. Most alleged improvements could probably be explained as a placebo effect (i.e. a psychological effect).

I have not heard yet of people reporting about Tinnarex, but generally speaking I would say that you can get herbal remedies with the main ingredients of this sort much cheaper form your local pharmacy/drugstore. I took Ginkgo Biloba earlier this year for a completely different reason, and I have to say that during the time I was taking it, the tinnitus (or whatever is left of it) seemed to calm down significantly, although from my experiences with other herbal drugs in the early stages , I feared the opposite. So it may depend to a certain extent on the stage of your tinnitus (some other things have changed for me in this respect as well; for instance in the beginning, sports had a negative effect, but after about 2 years this very much reversed to the opposite).

As I have indicated on my website already, it is foremost a case of avoiding some things, in the first place everything that unneccesarily stimulates your nervous system like caffeine, alcohol, stress etc. If you pull this through for a while, then you might also better respond to some active remedies. For me the occasional intake of a simple painkiller (Paracetamol or Aspirin) has been quite beneficial in this sense in the early phase, and I have also made good experiences with alcohol-free beer later on. Generally speaking, all nerve calming measures should be beneficial.

Thomas

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#8 03-12-2007 03:15:55

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Hi Thomas,

I'm also Brian,  and we had a pleasant email exchange about a year ago when I had re-developed tinnutus after an unfortunate feedback event in my recording studio. Although it looked like I was hearing some improvements for a while, things took a turn for the worse a few months ago. To my knowledge there was no trigger.Tinnitus being the mysterious condition it is, can come and go as mysteriously as it first arose. I have tried different things including the T Gone, all to no avail. As you may recall, I am a musician who first developed tinnitus about 12 years ago after subbing on a grueling two night gig with an unusually loud band. I subsequently developed terrible T which lasted two years and gradually subsided until it was for all intents a purposes, gone. There was no residual ear noise to speak of. Incidentally, that was the end of my performing career. I also developed focal dystonia in my right hand, which I have also not been able to cure. But that's another (long) story.

Now the tinnitus is back full force and shows no sign of letting up-to the contrary new tones have emerged in the midrange that are impossible for me as a musician to tune out. It was one thing to have the non tonal binaural screech we all know and love (not!) but it is quite another to have a (slightly flat) c above middle c monotonously droning in my right ear all day. And that is only one of several new annoying identifiable tones. It is especially difficult to sleep, and I really don't know how to deal with that. I have given up the coffee, alcohol and sugar and am trying to exercise every day. So far I haven't had any luck, but I haven't given up yet. After all, I made it through this once before and that took two years. It has been only one year and I am still hoping for a change for the better.

I am very pleased to see you have opened up this forum again. You are a voice of reason in the internet tinnitus wilderness.

cheers,

Brian

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#9 03-12-2007 12:49:01

kenji
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''non tonal binaural screech '' what do you mean by that brian? you mean it's so high that it is impossible to discern the pitch?

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#10 03-12-2007 17:05:24

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Hi Brian,

Welcome to the new forum (although of course I am sorry that you are still not better again after your latest tinnitus episode and that you have to go this route).

Obviously, sleeping problems are the most crucial ones for many tinnitus sufferers. During the day the tinnitus is usually just one noise amongst others and thus easier to ignore.
As mentioned already elsewhere, I have made good experience initially with taking the occasional painkiller if required (which suppressed my tinnitus quite effectively  and also improved the condition in the long term). Later on I have also made good experiences with alcohol-free beer  (just one can usually calmed down the tinnitus for a couple of days). And on top this of course a general avoidance of caffeine and alcohol.
Generally, you have to remind yourself that this is a nervous condition, so calming down your nerves should always be beneficial, whereas stimulating and upsetting them tends to make it worse.

Thomas

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